Good afternoon everybody. Good afternoon Dr. Greer. Thank you for being here. Thank you.
We have an exciting afternoon planned. We're going to be speaking about Buggasphere developments and then we're
going to have Ashton Forbes join us in the next 30 minutes talking about the
MH370 flight. And so let's get started. Yes. Hello everyone. Thanks for
supporting our membership and being part of our group. it helps fund a lot of what we're doing in our research. Uh,
and speaking of which, I think most of you had heard that the bugosphere was carbon dated to 12,560
years ago. Uh, which of course is almost three times older than the Great Pyramid. Uh, and that that is based on
the resin material that are in the equatorial ports around the middle of
the uh the equator of the bugosphere. And uh since then we got the uh results
from uh a very prestigious lab for the metallurgy and that's an analysis of it
and the gamma ray emissions were a baseline indicating that this object had
not spent any significant time in outer space. that doesn't tell us where it
originated from since uh if it had originated u on another planet or even
been put together out of earth material uh by an ET ancient civilization or
human advanced civilization connected to the ETSs uh we don't know which uh I
think it's probably more extraterrestrial in origin u it wouldn't show that if it had not spent
significant time out in space getting gamma ray u bombardment
uh so or pass through space. So uh we'll get into this in a little bit about how
you manufacture extraterrestrial materials. What's more interesting is the metallurgical analysis. Now we
always knew it was 90 plus% aluminum, but what we've gotten now is a whole
list of 15 or 20 uh elements that are in this compound, this alloy. And there's
no alloy on the planet that matches this aluminum alloy that the shell of the
sphere is made of. There's not a match. There's some that are similar. And what's interesting is that in some of
the elements, and I'm not going to bore you with all that, is that the some of them are elements which were not even
discovered until the late 1800s or early 1900s. And since the bugosphere itself
is dated to 12,560 years ago, that is remarkable. Those particular rare earth
elements are also ones used in very high-tech electronics and precision
engineering but also for electromagnetic and magnetic field uh modulation. So I
think what we're looking at there is uh the the actual physics of how this bugosphere would spin and lose its mass
and and levitate sort of anti-gravity is very much connected to this unique alloy
that the shell of the of the bugosphere which is a you know two or three
centimeters thick. It's an inch to inch and a half thick. Um, and that that that
aluminum alloy not only doesn't match any known uh existing ones on Earth, but
it also uh has elements in it that weren't even known on Earth until a little over 100 years ago. I also want
to point out that the aluminum process, how you make aluminum from boxite ore,
was not even invented until uh the late 1800s and didn't go into widespread use
until the very late 1800s and early 20th century. Before then, aluminum in a
state of just pure aluminum was so rare. or it would be found where there had been a very high temperature like
volcano or something that would naturally be hot enough to smelt it out of the ore was more valuable than gold.
Gold was was nowhere near as as precious as aluminum was prior to the modern era.
So that's a very interesting fact as well because human civilization uh
didn't even have the ability to to make something like this at least the modern uh industrial uh human civilization
until the late 1800s early 1900s. Um, and I think these findings are going to,
you know, be uh add it's additive that with the carbon dating of the resin
that's in the the actual portals uh around the center. And then another
interesting part about this is that the uh the te the the the metallurgy
would indicate that if there was a compound that was of this precise composition,
if it does exist on Earth, it's it's classified. In other words, it wouldn't be in a database that it matches with.
Um, and but when you look at this object and its age, it would indicate more and
more that it's of a nonhuman extraterrestrial origin and that it it
was one that was either teleported here, which we can talk about that. We'll get
into this a little more with the discussion with Ashton Forbes about the Malaysian jet that vanished in thin air,
but also where uh you know the manufacturing of an ET object isn't you
don't dig up uh ore and smelt it and then weld it together into a a Boeing
jet or a car. They actually use a type of technology where it sets up a
frequency at a very basic level of spaceime in the zero point and they
materialize all those elements as sort of like a 3D printing. It all comes out as one. And this is true of all the ET
craft that have been analyzed after we've downed them in crash retrievals. And it's also true of parts of craft
that have been studied by scientists I know who work under contract with uh
either CIA or or some tech company. And I think this would then explain why the
sphere itself when you look at it when we were boring into the these little ports to get this metal sample, there
were aspects of it that were integrated in the metal um that look like
communication or perhaps little hairike fiber optics or something, but they
weren't like running along the outside wall or something. they're they're integrated into the actual skin and the
thickness of the aluminum sphere which is very unusual. Um and it's not at all
how we manufacture things. If you take apart your any solid state device you have it's a zillion little parts uh
welded and put together. This is not how ET manufacturing happens. So I think all of this would indicate that we're
dealing with a bonafide nonhuman extraterrestrial device. Uh and then on
top of it, you have this breakthrough that's just happened where two separate
teams of linguistic experts uh have uh analyzed the symbols and found that they
were of a proto Sanskrit foundation or or origin and those have been those
words and symbols have been translated. Um, and it's sort of ominous because it
sort of seems to indicate at the time that that was made of some catastrophic
event that happened from the sun or some cosmic event and we know that was at the
time of the ending of the last ice age and there were a lot of so-called earth changes and geohysical changes. The
question is why are now all of these we have five videos of five separate uh
buggosphere activations now that that we have received from Haime Mason out of
Mexico City because he's in touch with everyone in Colombia, South America where these objects are happening in and
around the vicinity of Bugga BUA Colombia which is how it got the name
Bugosphere. And that would indicate that there's some kind of bugosphere
activations plural because there are multiple of them that would uh you know
it could be pretending that we're coming up on a time of significant geohysical changes or something. So it's a bit
interesting to say the least. Um uh so I think that's more to follow. I think
what we're going to do at some point they also found that when people went into a room and chanted mantras which
interestingly originate from Sanskrit and the symbols on there are protoanskrit.
The sphere starts putting out electromagnetic fields of energy uh anomalously. Um I wonder if I had a
dream last night actually and if we went in and did a puja which is all in Sanskrit a whole long puja and meditated
and see what this sphere would do if it would start interacting in any way. Um now you know a lot of people who are new
haven't followed this but since the early 90s I've told people that the Sanskrit language is the root of all
Indo-Uropean languages. proto Sanskrit would be just a very ancient version of
modern what we have today in as Sanskrit but that the Sanskrit language the words
and the vibrations of those uh sounds are known as name and form. In other
words, the word for a for water ashman, you can use it and materialize water or
the same thing for fruit or same thing and you hear of the enlightened and masters being able to materialize
objects with this kind of frequency and consciousness. Now it's interesting that this sphere has proto Sanskrit on it
seems to be reacting to mantras and of course one of the foundational aspects
of C5 contact close encounters of the fifth kind contact is the meditative
state using those frequencies in the mantras and you know and this was
something that I experienced when I was 18 where it was very clear to me that the science of consciousness and the
whole vadic knowledge which by the way precedes any organized religion. People associate it with
Buddhism and Hinduism but that's not true. It actually precedes uh any of
those. So I think it's very important for people to begin to connect a couple dots here and that is uh the ancient
science of knowledge and even these ancient technologies some of which are referred to a little
bit in the bugabaga the vimmanas the UFOs flying around but that seems to go
back way to pre-recorded history now connect that dot and the science of
consciousness and C5 contact to the idea that this bugosphere is actually an
operating anti-gravity and communication device that seems to have not only the
protosanskrit symbols on it but seems to react to mantras being chanted in that
frequency. So, this gets into a very interesting analysis and uh this is why
um you know, we've been working on a film that we're totally at this point scrapping and we're going to do a whole
new film using the new whistleblower testimony, but all this new information
from the bug sphere. And another breaking news story is that we've received, I don't know, 6,000 pages so
far of documents from a source who has been working with seven uh defectors
from uh illegal covert programs dealing with UAPs and UFOs. Um, and some of them
are quite explosive in terms of exposing what was going on with some of the aerospace contractors who were
gaslighting and deceiving the US government. What the senior CIA guy I've
known since the 90s calls the rat pack. And that will be a great little subchapter of this new film, The Rat
Pack. and he talks about how they have been deceiving the US government, the media, and the public and the UFO
community for quote decades. I'm quoting from an email he sent me um some years
ago after the whole kurbuffle happened with the tic-tac and and Lou Alzando and
and that whole rat pack of disinformation operatives. Now we have documents connecting all of them to uh
receiving millions of dollars in research funds um through uh Bigalow
Aerospace and then reporting back falsified conclusions on things like the
tic tac and so and yet at the same time it has a lot of information on real
research that's very interesting. So uh now it's going to take us a while to go
through all that. we're going to have to have get an AI program to be able to go through this volume of material because
I'd go blind looking through all of them word by word. But it's an extraordinary
development. Uh the other thing to to realize is that we're going to be receiving more of these documents
apparently and uh there may be maybe some new whistleblowers related to it.
So, we're going to do an entirely new outline of this film and and pivot to
something that is just just to catch up with the amazing breakthroughs of the last month or so. All of this, I'm
telling you, has happened in the last 30 days. So, this is where you sort of stop the presses and say, "Okay, now we have
something uh 10 times more explosive to reveal that will be coming out." And we
hope we can finish this so it comes out dur sometime. Um, so that's our goal
with the new the new film we're going to be doing. Uh, and then just one other thing, uh, we will be, uh, doing a
Gaosphere event in November. Um, unfortunately the dates aren't here on
my sheet, but it's sometime in November. Um, and uh, the we're going to do a
fundraiser for all this disclosure work on uh, the Friday night before the Gossphere event. So, if you want to help
us and want to have a small private gathering with me, we're going to have a whole afternoon and evening for major uh
significant funders who want to help uh fund this because uh we're we're
encountering, you know, enormous expenses, not only with the film, but with the scientific analysis of all of
this material and um also the uh investigators who are leazisoning with
us um to the senior law enforcement officials in the United States who are
now moving very quickly. Uh I will tell you that the most important developments in disclosure you are not going to see
on the internet or on the news or certainly not in a congressional hearing as they are currently configured. It's
happening uh in the sphere of covert investigators on the side of disclosure
working with the most senior law enforcement people in the United States. And that is what's happening at a very
and it's happening very quickly now. I am leazoning that information uh
confidentially to uh certain members of Congress and they're aware of it and are cooperating. So that's about all I can
say about that just because I have to hold some of this confidential because I've agreed to do so. So that's sort of
a quick trip update on on all of that. And and one of the things I also want to
mention is that uh with these new documents, one of the the things that stood out to me was the amount of money
that was obtained. You know, I don't know if you guys remember during co I
think it was in 2021, uh General Herbert, uh Bob Herbert, he
had been a sort of right hand to Senator Harry Reid, who was the majority leader
of the Senate back in the day. Uh and uh Herbert had left the Pentagon as a
general and was an assistant on the UFO UAP issue for Senator Reid who was very
interested in this. His home state was Nevada. and Senator Reid ended up mentoring uh Senator Marco Rubio who as
co-chair of the Senate uh intelligence committee along with the chairman
Senator Warner really began to drill down a few years ago on the UAP issue
and I had been asked of course to go in and provide uh information in a skiff
secure compartment information facility of what we had because they had been investigating it for a couple years and
just hit a lead wall. Interestingly, the chief investigator, who would be the
equivalent of a three-star general if he'd stayed in the Pentagon, told me that he went out to the Lockheed skunk
works and ended up finding um a bunch of old antique jets and stuff and he knew
he was being lied to and gas lit. U he was smart enough to know he would and that's when they reached out to us and
um then everything changed frankly. So, uh, of course, there's a a a new leadership at the Senate Intelligence
Committee and a new chair and co-chair because, uh, Mr. Rubio became, uh, the
Secretary of State, as you know, a few months ago. But at any rate, um, that's
what's going on at at that level. And and around before that time, however, General Herbert contacted He says,
"Look, we gave tens of millions of dollars to Bigalow Aerospace," uh, which
was Robert Bigalow, who I had met in 1993 at Lawrence Rockefeller's ranch. He
was a billionaire Las Vegas who had a hotel chain. Um and then uh he had
gotten intercepted by Colonel John Alexander and a number of other people who were in this disinformation rat pack
that had been operational since the uh 70s and 80s. And uh Bigo Aerospace had a
contract to do a report on all of this to the US government and it was at the
initial amount was $22 million. And of course this came all out in the Wall Street Journal and New York Times some
years ago. But what they ended up giving General Herbert and Senator Reid, quote
unquote, was not even a snapshot from 40,000 ft. In other words, he said, "We
didn't get anything of substance." Meanwhile, in these files that we have
obtained from internally are all the hot stuff they did find and do have on crash
retrievalss, on all kinds of tech, on the science equations and and and
formula for gravity control, anti-gravity, whatever you want to call it, 0 point all this. And this is what
we've just received. And it's several thousand pages. I think it's five or 6 thousand pages. But what I'm saying here
is that there's a lot to go through. Um, at say the least, uh, I'm going to have
to redact anything that could be an operating system that could be weaponized because that's I have a responsibility to do so. And I have
promised the government since Clinton that that's what we would do since these
can be very dangerous technologies if if they are weaponized. But the scandal of
all this quite frankly is that what was given to the people who used Pentagon
funding but was authorized by Congress back in the early 2000s to get to the
bottom of this ended up being whitewashed and watered down. And yet
they were doing all this other work right under clandestine contracts with the Defense Intelligence Agency and
other entities. So we can now prove this through these documents. Now the the
question then becomes how many crimes were committed by taking those sums of
money from the government and covering up their findings because you know and
this is exactly what Dr. Kurpatre did with Arrow. you know, the that the
Congress passed laws and funded an office to get to the bottom of the UAP UFO issue and that became an operation
which we can now prove and which has been concluded, by the way, by certain members of Congress and and senior US
federal law enforcement as having been a coverup operation. So there you're talking about multiple felonies of
defrauding the government, abuse and and misuse of government funds, etc. and so
on. You know, the only question is going to be and do we have enough now to prove all this? Yes. The question is what's
the how much stomach is there to go to prosecution, right? That's then that's
that's where it becomes very political unfortunately. But all we can do is put the facts together and make our
recommendations to the Congress and to the president and to the Department of Justice and the FBI, etc. But um but
that is where that is. And I will tell you that this is very explosive information. Um, so this new documentary
we're going to do, I think could probably be spun off into a whole series that'll be dealing with not only this
ancient non-human object, the bugosphere object 12,500 years ago flying around,
but now we have all this recent history. And you'll look at the timing of it. In
2001, we did the National Press Club event that kicked off the modern disclosure
error. Uh the whole this whole period period. Now, we had been doing it before then, but it was quiet and it was not
that public. It was called Project Starlight, which was a code name that I
didn't give it. A man who was friends with the CI director for Bill Clinton
named it. And that's when we had our first gatherings of top secret
whistleblowers in 1995 and then in 97 1997 for members of Congress. And and
once we realized that neither the president nor Congress were going to get to do anything, we organized the the
what's now known as the launch of the global disclosure movement in 2001 at
the National Press Club with 22 of these witnesses and whistleblowers. But at
this point now, we have I debriefed over seven or eight hundred of them and we
have new ones coming in all the time. And um there's another whole group uh of
seven that are very key that have just surfaced that have dealt specifically with the technologies um and the zero
point electrogravidics and things of this sort. Um so this continues to grow
and you know we do appreciate everyone's help and support because we are not receiving money from the government or a
corporation. We're doing this all out of our own ability to uh fund it and raise
the funds to do it on a on a not just US scale but on a global scale uh all over
the world as well as operations that we have in United Kingdom, Canada and elsewhere. So um those of you can help
and come to our event in Boulder in November. I think Raven probably knows the dates.
Yeah, it's November. Our fundraiser is November 7th and then the gasphere event
is the 8th and 9th on that weekend. Yeah. So it' be fun to see everybody there who can make it. Um and uh you
know hopefully also the weekend with in the gasphere will be fun. We'll be talking a lot about the bugosphere and
the gasphere which is kind of funny but uh why not? So, uh, that's sort of a
quick update of the, you know, last couple weeks, uh, that we've been
pulling this together. The metallurgy report, um, we will re release at some
point. We're trying to get clearance from the lab to put their name onto it as we release it. Normally, they're
very, it's a very high-end lab, but um, um, once we have that answer, we'll know
if that's going to be redacted or not, but as soon as we have that answer, we'll release the full report. It's 110
pages of metallurgy analysis on the metal components of the bugosphere.
Great. Um, well, we have Mr. Ashton Forbes that has joined us. So,
Oh, yes. Thanks for being here today. Yeah, thanks for having me. Good to talk
to you, Dr. Greer. Good to see you. Good work. Um, yeah. So, just to pivot now from what we were
talking about to what Mr. Forbes has to share. Um just in in a way of introduction uh
Ashton sort of has been the lead person looking into the Malaysian uh 370 flight
that vanished uh that no traces were found um some years ago and has had
received some footage of a very unusual series of spheres going around the jet
and it there was a big flash of light and it vanished. Now of course um I don't have any insight information on
that so I won't wanted uh Mr. Forbes to come and share this and if you can
Ashton if you can just go through it for people who don't know much about this case you know the dates what it happened
how you came about the footage what witnesses there are that you can nail
down what companies have been involved that you can nail down and just do a synopsis for for our viewers. Yeah,
definitely. And the reason why I'm so excited to talk to you is that a lot of my research has led me back to you.
Actually, I think that out of all I've, you know, learned all the lore of the UFO community and the major players and
you by far and away have talked to the legit black project engineers that know the science, know the physics, have
clearly worked in the programs, have the NDAs, can't speak about it. So, that's why I wanted to get your insight and
share some information of my own from my own research. So, first thing is that the videos were not given to me. The
videos have been on the internet since 2014. Like, these are true leaked footage that was thrown on the internet
that everybody discredited, didn't even look into because it just looked so incredible. No one could believe it was
real. And we were not familiar with the military systems that were being depicted. We didn't have like the goast,
the gimbal, uh those those fleer footages back in 2014. That was like 2017, 2018 that those videos were
publicly acknowledged. The other one is um I don't know if you can share the video that I've put up here. This is the
big one is that I've identified this one video to be Gorgon stair wide area motion imagery. They've had multiple
confirmations. So what is that? I've never That's a People don't know what that those words mean.
Yeah, it's it's classified still to this day, which is why people haven't been speaking up about it. But this is
essentially a drone flying above the airplane, an MQ9 Reaper drone that has pods underneath each wing, and it's
taking photos all the time, circling around an area. And what it does, it beams this through a relay satellite,
which you can actually see in the bottom left, NOL22. That's a that's a real relay satellite, USA184.
It relays that information to uh like PATCOM or whatever the special forces uh
joint intelligence network is. And this would have been only primarily accessible in a skiff somewhere like
some secured facility where they have intelligence analysts who are reviewing it. And it's basically like Google Earth
video playback. Uh presumably only in the regions where they have the drones or there may be other capabilities. This
version of it we believe is increment two based on the frame rate. It looks like the plane's kind of jerky. It's
only about six frames per second. Nowadays, they apparently have stuff that's much better than this, but that's
why it looks like the screen's moving around. That's why the clouds don't look like they move very much. There's parallax correction in these systems,
but this is a real And also the last point is that you see that cursor that closes that window out there at the end,
right? Uh that's a big clue because it shows that with these uh whammy systems,
they have a big map and then they can press somewhere on the screen and it pulls up a window and it's like a what's
a whammy? What's a whammy? If you use an acronym so yeah. Okay. So just as a rule
since we're talking to the general public if you use an acronym define it the first time and then we then can use
the acronym. Yeah. So it has like three different names. They also call it Was wide area
airborne surveillance and then Miami wide area motion imagery. So it's a computer system that uses photos from
the sky and produces that footage. So that's the big one. And then I'll just share the other video is there's two
drones that were recording this from different angles. And this the second one's also an MQ9 uh Reaper drone. And
you can see I mean you can see the drone right there. It's actually under hardpoint number five is where this camera is situated. Uh, my sources tell
me that it's a Lightning G4 by North of Grumman, which has color fleer capability. So, it's just an overlay
they can put over the fleer footage essentially to show this thermal gradient. And this one's so important because you
can see that these are plasma. These orbs are actually plasma. So, they're really a drone actually that's being
encased in plasma just like we in our spy planes, we use a plasma sheath to reduce drag for our our hypersonic spy
planes or supersonic spy planes. The same concept here. the extra bit that we see these dark lines that come before
and after the plasma. This is actually indicative of a field reverse configuration or a plasmoid. You may be
familiar with the terminology where um they're essentially using the
the exhaust so to speak from this fusion reactor on the in the middle of this as
propulsion. And then as you see there, this was the first question I had for you. the plane disappears like in a
flash, but as the orbs converge on the plane. And when I started researching
this, the first thing that came up was wormholes. And I believe that that is truly a real wormhole. But it it's more
of how it's being accomplished that's the amazing part about it. Even this slow-mo version was actually built into
the original footage that was avail first found on the internet, which tells us that whoever leaked this, they wanted
us to like understand what these plasma spheres really are, what they're made out of, how they function. You can see
this weird heat signature in them, which seems to mean that it's a non-equilibrium plasma. Like the
electrons have been separated from the ions and they're being kept separated intentionally to build up a charge. And
then this last bit here, I'll just go ahead and spoil what I think it is. Then I want to get your opinion is that from
my research, I think those are plasma fusion propulsion that what we're seeing with those plasma orbs. I think Loheed
Martin's definitely implicated in this for sure. They had a compact fusion reactor that went dark.
And I think that what we're seeing is a thermonuclear weapon. I think it's literally a thermonuclear weapon in the sense that the plasma orbs are acting as
a polyhedral fishing trigger. And that on board that plane was a whole bunch of lithium ion
batteries. And it turns out that lithium is one of three autronic fusion fuels and it's used in thermonuclear weapons.
So I think that long story short that we learned how to manipulate spaceime when we were building nukes and then when we
turned them into clean nukes, clean fusion bombs, we really started to manipulate spaceime in a significant
sense and that's what I think led to that video you just saw. Right. And so uh do you getting back to
the provenance of all this which is all important because you know in the day in in the
era of deep fakes and computerenerated graphics and images and video and motion
graphics uh people are always going to say uh and I've been doing this for 35
years now uh if it's a really good photograph it's CGI. If it's not crystal
clear it doesn't tell you anything. um they're always going to come up with an excuse. So what I have found is that you
have to nail down the provenance meaning uh the history, origin and
credibility of the origin. Uh without which you got bumpus. Um so uh just a
word to the wise. I mean I've been doing this a very long time. Yeah. You ready for this? So the leaker we got to hear. We got to hear you know
how how who who who had this footage? How can we prove that this leaker had
access to it and his provenance? And also a few jurisdictional questions.
Where exactly was this event when it vanished? Let's just say it did happen
as shown geographically. Where precisely did it happen? Uh the person who leaked
it, what was his nationality and corporate affiliation and things like that are going to be very important for
what we're doing. So, and uh I'll share just one more image right away because the location is super important because
that's actually Malaysian Airlines flight 370. It's not meant to look like MH37. It just literally is. If you pull
up this this uh kind of I built this into Google Earth here, this is the real path of MH370 starting from Koala Lumpur
when it went dark over the South China Sea and then later on we found out it turned around and went back towards
Paneang airport which is a place that you would land and then it makes another deviation. This was still tracked by
military radar when it starts going northwest here. And then you see the military radar loss at 1822 UTC. Um,
just because this is flat, it's not a straight line, but this would basically be a straight line going to the northwest up here to where you see it
says satellite video coordinates. These are the real coordinates in that whammy footage that I was just showing you. And
this is uh what 20 minutes away from the last radar plot that was publicly known by the Malaysian government. Now, also
note there's a witness, Katherine T. This woman here, I've spoken to Katherine T. She's a real person that
really saw the plane on fire glowing orange right in the path of where this plane is being shown in those videos. So
the providence or at least the evidence that shows that this is legitimate includes uh a real person who saw the
plane and a report in China times that was not reported in Western media that claimed to be an intercepted
communication of the pilot saying that the plane was attempting an emergency landing and disintegrating which is
corroborated by the witness's sighting and both those videos I just showed you. Now the real thing that people want to
know when it comes to the the Providence is so so here's a question. What let's stop. So the the plane was on fire
before this these plasmoids appeared and it vanished.
Correct. And so so in other words timelines are very important. Which came first? Yeah. Let me pull that back up. So the
plane starts on fire. I presume if I pull that back up here uh at the top
right where it says plane goes dark 1722 UTC. Why does the plane go dark and why does the plane turn around? A lot of
people had speculated fire actually. uh especially the lithium-ion batteries as well, but they weren't known for over a
week after the plane disappeared and I think that was covered up. Personally, I think the whole thing was an operation. I think they planted those
batteries on the plane dual purpose. One to start the diversion to force the plane to turn around and then at some
point when it why doesn't it land at Paneang. That's where I think the United States military comes over the comms and
says come to the rendevu point which is those coordinates that I just showed you. And they probably said something like try to land in the water and we'll
fish you out of the water. and instead they deployed those orbs on the plane which was all part of the operation presumably or maybe there was backup
plans and you know something didn't go according to plan but that's my question for the US government what I can tell
you for sure so this plane would have been on fire but not like an uncontrollable fire like a controlled fire by batteries that were intended to
start on fire that were intended not to take down the plane that were also had a dual purpose potentially as a a
neutronic uh thermonuclear weapon they could have been the payload for that So
this is the reason why we would have never found the plane. This is why the whole south the other point is that location I showed you where the plane is
at is at the same location where they claim the plane takes a sharp south turn into the south Indian Ocean, flies for like 5
hours and supposedly crashes. Only problem we never found anything down there. And then we find this debris. This
debris that shows up. It shows up. We would expect it to show up in the coast of Australia because that's where the plane crash off
the coast of Australia. The ocean currents go to the east. But instead, we find all the debris, which is only about
10 pieces, 15 pieces at most. I do think it's from MH270. We find it in in
Africa, a completely different continent. And actually, in order for this to begin to make sense, we need the
plane to either go in the water or have a final destination much closer to Africa than where we've been searching
in the south Indian uh south Indian Ocean near Australia. So, the circumstantial evidence seems to show
that something at least is not right about the story because we never found the plane. plane has four emergency
transponders that only go off during a crash. Somehow they can't be deactivated. Somehow none of them go off
in this situation. The whole thing to me reeks of espionage and this is why I've come to you is because the these videos
the reason why they don't want them out are multiple purposes. One that Gorgon stare capability is integrated into all of our intelligence and that's why you
can't talk about it at all. It's not just that we have a drone flying over there. it's integrated into a big network that an AI is looking around
mapping the whole planet looking for differences all the time, right? We have much more capabilities we want. So, they can never talk about that.
The other thing is there's no way to spin this to claim that the aliens were doing it. The reason is because you've
got an MQ9 Reaper drone tracking this plane at super close distance. You can tell it's an operation just based on the
proximity of the drone to the airplane. And the camera operator zooms out like this is not their first rodeo. like
they're like, "Oh, we're going to get this thing perfectly centered to make sure we catch the zap here." And they they kind of struggle. The plane falls
out of view. You can tell it's somebody manually recording it. Now, the last bit I'll tell you is this is that
now that I'm on my run here. If you can pro if you can get the government to release the MH370 files,
cuz I promise you they have them. I've been foying everything and I'm just getting rejected left and right. Then
all of disclosure will come apart at the seams. And I don't know what it leads back to. if it leads back to aliens or
if it leads back to ancient civilization, but I guarantee you this will all fall apart because I found the guy that leaked the videos. His name is
Lieutenant Commander Edward Lynn. And after I started exp wait Wait, is he
American? Yes, he is an He's a naturalized American from Taiwan became a
naturalized American. He from talking to people that used to work in his unit, which was the VP2 Wizards, a very
secretive uh Navy unit, they said that he was basically the golden boy, that he was being kind of pushed up for
upper management. He had been a congressional liaison. He had access to nuclear secrets and his case is one of the weirdest
cases out there. I mean, I noticed once I saw his case, I knew he was the guy because the timeline matched perfectly.
He started being investigated right after the plane disappeared. I knew from that footage that it was probably they
were gonna find out who leaked that for sure because it's not somebody with like a camera phone recording that. That's
right. Somebody pulled that off a flash drive, off a skiff. And so what was what was he charged with?
He was charged with espionage. They were going to put him away forever. It was the first incident of espionage by an active duty member of the Navy since the
Cold War. So almost 40 50 years. And where is he being held?
Uh Chesapeake is where I think they they had him. But and where was the tri where was the
trial in Norfick? Uh I'm not sure. I do know that he got abused during his pre-trial detainment
and they wouldn't let him out a pre-trial detainment because they were afraid of what he would say to the media and they convinced him to take a plea
deal. And it turns out there was no evidence of him actually sharing any information with anyone from China. They
had to admit this later on after coming after him for espionage. And his family was in support saying there was some
kind of misunderstanding related to this. I think that he leaked those videos out of like not knowing what he
was looking at and didn't realize how much damage he was doing to national security and then they get him in a room
where they're interrogating him trying to figure out you know who's connections why did he leak that footage and they
find out or he may wait I mean if he if he saw that an event happened like that that
resulted in the death of everyone on that plane his mistake was not claiming
whistleblower status and and doing it so but that can be correct corrected. So the question is I'm getting very
specific here. Please, this is my wheelhouse. Um, uh, number one, there's no FOIA officer on the
planet that would be able to have access to those files. This is the mistake all UFO people make and UAP people make.
It's a parallel universe. There's a secret government programs that are corporate, super secret government,
hybrid entity that's above the president. It's above the Congress. It's
above members of the senior folks at the Pentagon I briefed. You know, I mean,
even guys who have rotated through as the director of the Defense Intelligence
Agency have been blocked from this information. So, the idea that some bureaucrat desk jockey who looks at
foyer requests is going to have even if he wanted to release it, he in a million
years he would never have access. So, you can save your ink. Um, number two, the fact is the uh this particular
gentleman uh this lieutenant uh colonel or lieutenant what' you say it was a lieutenant
commander Edward maybe they lieutenant commander y Lynn he he is did he actually ever state
that he released that footage or no no and he hasn't and he had never So how do we know so how do we know he
how do we know he released it? So, I mean to depends on your level of uh evidence and proof that you want, but he
changed his name legally two months after I started outing him on social media. Uh changed his name to Edward Sariah. The only way we found him
actually was that we found him under his new name doing a promo video for his company, which I'm not trying to ruin
his life. I I know he's the guy that leaked the videos. I just want him to respond. But, um he's showing his old photos from the
Navy. And the weirdest part was this guy had been charged with espionage. What he leaked went to the Joint Chiefs of
Staff. That's how serious it was. His lawyer said that the evidence in question was available on the internet.
His lawyer said that publicly. It's it's recorded document. And his lawyer said he was investigated. Investigation began
April 2nd, 2014. This is less than a month after the plane disappeared. And that the footage that was available on
the internet said received March 12th, 2014. That's 4 days after the plane disappeared. So the person that uploaded
it, if they're telling the truth, they got leaked right away. Somebody saw it right away. They panicked. They released it. I Edward Lynn changed his name. I
had been trying to contact him. Couldn't get in touch with him. Finally, someone found his lawyer, Larry D. Younger, and
they actually had a conversation with him where he said something about the feds bringing satellite video into the case. Now, this is secondhand, so I
can't corroborate that. I reached out to Larry Younger half a dozen times, maybe more. Wouldn't pick up the phone, never
return a phone call. Eventually turned off his phone entirely, and it's been off ever since. I found Edward Lynn's
recent phone number. Somebody else was able to get connection with it. actually was on a live stream, called him on the live stream where you can hear his voice
on the on the um voicemail. And what I told him was that I don't even necessarily want him to come out as a whistleblower. I think that to counter
your point, um I think that what they're doing is technically legal. I mean, yes, I would say if the public were to know
about it, we would all say it's absolutely illegal. I mean there was 239 people on that plane but I think it's
being covered under the peds and under nuclear weapons classifications where normally we would say that that's you
know these are illegal covert operations but I think they had a legal reason. I think Averil Hines was actually like the
CIA deputy director at the time and and became DNI. She was the one who was doing the legal justifications for Obama
to do drone strikes. She would have been the one probably writing the legal justification for this operation as well. And so this is the part, this is
why Edward Lynn doesn't take whistleblower status because it's technically legal stuff that he's doing.
And now he's in their good graces. I mean, he's doing videos where he's talking about promoting stuff for the VA and for veterans. And you're like, if
this was a spy, so wait, this this gentleman did or didn't go to prison. He did. He went he got a 9-year
sentence. So they took a plea deal and they dropped the espionage charges and they just give him like willful
retention of classified data which if you look at common char like uh sentencing for that it's like a year a
year to three years usually get probation. He got nine years nine years and they give him three they cut off
three for good behavior and he had been in prison too. So he even testifi I look at his appeals. He
even argued in his appeals how disproportionate his sentence was. And they had the military had people come in
and testify as to what he did was so serious. But all the stuff that they released publicly about why he was a
danger for national security was all just mundane emails. Like he never had really done anything wrong that they
could actually point to and they could never show. Okay, we we won't go too much on the weeds on that because limit of time
here. I I think I I think the point here I'm trying to make is um the underlying technology that had
been used that that exists is not known by members of Congress and
the president and the oversight committees. Therefore, the underlying programs are unconstitutional and
treasonous. I don't care how many bureaucrats and corporate shills and
lawyers that are corporate shills say otherwise. If the president and the the
people who constitutionally must oversee such operations are not are actively
blocked and that's what we can prove is happening not only in the Senate and the House but in the White House over many
many administrations uh because I'm the one who has conversations with those sort of folks
all the time. And so what you what at this point if there's an underlying
criminal uh operation that is unconstitutional and op priori
treasonous everything else that flows from it is also illegal and anything that is done
in the furtherance of that under RICO statutes raketeerian influence corrupt organization which is how we you know
took on the mafia all of those operations fall into it and then the whistleblowers are protected. So you
even though here's and it's called uh basically this is when you're you're doing uh you know uh a stove pipe. So
you have a classified TSSCI stove pipe but then they'll attach to it legitimate. And one of the ways they've
kept the very illegal programs a sticky wicket is that you could get
burned by exposing a legally overseen known operation by the senior gang of
eight and the president. But attached and buried in it in another stowpipe within a stowpipe are the illegal
criminal operations. This is a nuance that no one is is looking at and it may
it but it imperils that in and of itself is another felony. If you if you are
committing a treasonous and unconstitutional act on something related to UAPs and what have you and
use a legitimate top secret program to further that secrecy, that is
compounding it and it is another felony. It's another criminal act. So that's how
that all falls apart. And this gets to then what is going to eventually going to have to happen two paths.
Key people in this case, assuming you know that they're still living and you
mentioned the woman who saw the plane on fire and things like that, they would have to be subpoenaed and then they
would have to testify under oath. If it's a US citizen, uh if they are in
queried by a federal officer agent and they lie, that's a felony. Um, and the
law enforcement uh would would then have to say, "All right, you know, because
they've already concluded, I can tell you this, senior law enforcement and certain members of Congress have already
concluded that these and certain key people in the administration have concluded these operations related to
UAPs are in fact part of a massive RICO um criminal organization."
And at that point everything can be rolled up in it. Now obviously there would be legitimate covert programs,
drone programs or telemetry, satellite monitoring, but to the extent those are
being used and you'd have to you you then have to redact certain things. But say the use of something like these uh
plasmas or plasmoids to create we have a whistleblower who has said it basically
it was an Einstein Rosen bridge um that gets created by that system um where it
just looks like it vanishes and you know if in fact that that plane on fire
vanished and quote unquote teleported over to off the coast of Africa that's
totally doable. People don't realize that capability does exist and has existed for some time.
Yeah, it just won a Nobel Prize. I mean, macroscopic quantum tunneling 2025. I'm on Tim Pool like six months ago saying
that's what they did to the plane. That's there's a difference between the conceptual understanding of it which is a wormhole which is a geometric shape
versus the actual physical mechanism that allows it to occur which is right manipulating the zero point energy. Like
the zero point energy is the distance between here and there because the zero point energy is spacetime itself. So if
quantum tunneling you you reduce the barrier that reducing the barrier is reducing the zero point energy and
that's why I think that even Hal Pudof he's the one I wanted to ask you like how you even got in touch with him because he's the guy I think is is
working with the CIA to determine when these weapons are deployed that goes above the president according to the
presidential executive uh emergency action documents and so they have he he's been an
operative of this group for decades. Yeah, totally. And he knows about this. He actually responded to a couple of my emails, but
he won't. He's playing koi, of course, with it, but he's the one that has this polarizable vacuum model where he's basically saying that if you want a
manipulated zero point energy, use electromagnetism. Well, nothing has more condensed electromagnetism than a
thermonuclear weapon, specifically an autronic one, which does direct energy conversion to electricity. So, that's
what I think they're using to do this. But the problem I think you're going to have is that I People have to understand what he's
talking about is not like we think of an atomic bomb or or hydrogen bomb blast.
You need to make a distinction when people hear what you said. Yeah. Because there you need to you need to
define that a little because people are thinking boom. Yeah. And this is the thing. This is what people have to wrap their brain
around. Nuclear weapons of 1945 are not the same as nuclear weapons of 2014 or 2025. One of the first things they were
trying to do is get rid of the heat, get rid of the radiation and just have it be pure energy conversion. This is a
neutronic fusion, meaning no neutrons are being released. So instead, you get pure electricity, pure energy. And I
think that's what they're using on that plane. But then this brings a big problem up because now, like you said,
they could be rolling this up into classifications that are perfectly legal from thermonuclear weapon or nuclear
weapon secrets. Yeah, that's what they We know that's what they do. We absolutely know that's what they do. And
that's how they burn, by the way, that's how they burn whistleblowers or investigators getting too close. I know
a couple of key whist uh investigators. Uh one a very senior one for Senate
intelligence got too close, but the what what was wrapped around the illegal
program were some things that were legal that that he he was not to access. And
so then ah we gotcha. See, it's a it's a honeypot. It's a sting. But that in of itself to use a legitimate classified
project as a sting for hiding a criminal
treasonous operation that is an even more serious crime. So this is where the
whistleblowers and investigators like yourself need to understand this because you know you cannot and I've said this
since the 90s the foundation of the whole disclosure movement is that we
were able to prove by me having meetings with very senior people who if the
programs were being run legally would know and they had you know absolutely
were not read in and this is Bill Clinton. This is his CI director. This
is General Patrick Hughes who is head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. This is Admiral Tom Wilson, head of J2, head of
intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Chairman of the House Oversight Committee in the 90s, Dan Burton, who uh
was trying to find out about this and was blown off and threatened and on and on and on. So the this is not crap I've
drugg off the internet by googling things. This is 30ome years of direct meetings with people that if these
programs were legal, they would have been read on to them and and known about it. And this is the foundation of people
coming forward and being able to avail themselves of whistleblower or protection. So, one thing I want to say
is anyone who knows about this case, we do have a law enforcement team that can
extend protection surveillance as well as uh whistleblower protection because
there are active criminal investigations involving RICO that are ongoing and that
can this gets rolled up into. And if there are people like that, they don't need to be out there on a limb twisting.
they need to come in and be part of that network. Uh, and I'm a direct leazison to that task force. So,
I jump in. I want just add there if anybody does have info about this, I suggest you go to Dr. Greer. His people
can get in touch with me if you want to. I'm not very easy to get in touch with directly and he has the resources to vet
and make sure because there I know for a fact there's thousands of people know that's that's wide area motion imagery and they know that's Gorgon stare
and and I and the thing is like this is the part about disclosure it's tough like what I've learned is Congress has
no idea you're right they have no clue whatsoever and I'm not even sure they should know just my personal opinion
because when we're talking about these thermonuclear weapons secrets like they're going to get out I think the part where I kind of diverge a little
with you and I don't not saying I disagree because I agree with you a lot is that I don't think you can disclose
part of it without disclosing all of it. Like once you realize that we can create these plasmoids that are these
stabilized plasma shapes and forms that can cause create these weapons, they are also an unlimited energy source forever.
It's it's the perfect fusion essentially. But so the problem is now once you want one of one piece of it,
you get all of it to come out. And I think this is where they struggle. And then to what you said about Oh, it is. No, no, this is why we've
said for years. I mean, if you look at the things in our archive that I wrote to President Clinton after I briefed his
CI director is that certain aspects of the there are ways to configure what you're talking about into energy systems
that would ameliate the biosphere problems and in poverty and there are ways those can be applied that are
clearly a weapon system. The thing th those applications have to be completely kept secret and regulated and what have
you. But, you know, look, everyone knows we have thermonuclear bomb. So, you can't go to Ace Hardware and buy one.
Uh, you can have a tanker filled with uh, you know, fuel uh, gasoline and run
it into a stanium and blow up a couple thousand people. Look, you know, at a certain point, and this gets into a
larger question, we're stuck. I did a movie a couple years ago called The Lost Century. You may have seen it.
And and we're basically stuck. We're stuck in the late 1800s maybe if you count power plants nuclear power plants
the mid uh 1940s50s with atomic and and
uh fision nuclear power which is basically a big steam engine heating
water uh that's all it is I mean and people don't realize a modern nuclear power plant is a big steam engine uh
like the choo choo trains of the 1800s going across the west I mean people are not very literate about science to be
honest with you. But, you know, that means that our our civilization is going to have to at some point evolve socially
and politically to where at least the first tier of these technologies come out. And the other problem with this,
the extreme secrecy on this, the skull duggery and misuse of those technologies, like if this is actually
what happened to those innocent people, that's what we're talking about. But I have worse cases. I have a case where a
quarter of a million people were killed. by the deployment of a type of directed
energy weapon over the fault line off of Indonesia that caused that massive tsunami and earthquake that killed a
quarter of a million people. And that I have people who were on the contract vessel that went down there and
detonated that thing. But it's not an explosion. It's a directed energy type of system like a directional EMP scalar
system. Uh they're also being used to down ET craft. I've been at two black sites recently where we have
whistleblowers who are at those sites where these systems are used to down non-human vehicles and inadvertently,
which ties into the MH370, down private civilian aircraft that
happen to get in the way and they'll just take them, they crash, they incinerate them to powder and get rid of
the bodies they call biologicals and the remains of whether it's a Cessna or whatever it is. Um, now these sorts of
atrocities are ongoing. Uh, and the man-made UFOs that are made by Lockheed
Northrup and my uncle's old company, Northrup Grumman and Rathon and a few other Boeing and skunk corpse by the way
are the same entity on this engineering. A lot of people don't know that the they are um what you have is uh all
manner of criminal activity going on. And then the worst is that we are not
alone in the cosmos and we have a bunch of people with these sort of technologies and they're a hammer and
the whole universe is a nail to hit. And so what's happened is that you have an
out of control group not supervised and known by the people or their representatives. And so at a certain
point, if you're going to endorse that, then you're endorsing a totalitarian
uh covert state that trumps democracy and trumps any the interests of the
people. But then who who who watching the hen house? Yeah. Right. I mean I mean the foxes are in
the hen house. So these guys who are doing this to be honest with you are committing all manner of dangerous uh
scenarios and abusing those technologies. So while at the one hand
yes any technology can been turned into I mean it's I'm a trauma doctor so you know I've seen a knife used you can put
butter on your bread or slit someone's throat. I've seen both no problemmo easy. But so the question becomes
you know who's going to be the guardians of that? who makes these decisions and
is it relegated to a group of quite frankly totalitarian fascists who want
to run the world to the ground and control things as masters of the universe motus we call them uh without
any regard for the human future because they got on this path
without thinking what how do you get out of it so they've gone so far down this path what we're trying to do quite
frankly and I and this is why I have a lot of support from people inside these covert programs is to give an a exit
path, a pathway out, but it's going to have to be done reasonably. And I% would
agree with you. These technologies that are in short path to weaponization and
offensive uses uh can't be allowed to go out there. On the other hand, the whole
subject matter, if it remains out of public view and oversight, these extraordinary abuses, a short list that
I've just given you is very short. We're talking kidnapping, embezzlement of trillions of dollars, uh the downing of
civilian aircraft, the trafficking in in humans, the trafficking in drugs and
weapons, um the complete subversion of the law. You know, how far do you let an
organization go off the rails before something happens to bring them back? Now, is there are there reasonable
national security secrets that have to be maintained? Yes. But at the same
time, you can't let an unchecked power. This is what Eisenhower warned about. Beware of the military-industrial
complex. And he said it because he had already been burned. I know for a fact he had been burned. So, let me add a few more
pieces of details on there because I know that Rubio knows about the videos because I saw a private email that had a bunch of military intelligence people on
it and he was on it. They're talking about ball lightning and cold explosions from Tom Bearden, which is what we're talking about in those videos. And so, I
think that we're never going to probably get disclosure from the government because like you said, it's all tangled up together. Even Lockheed's tangled as
the defense contractors are. They've been giving preferential treatment to their buddies and the people that are in the know and all this stuff. What I want
to point out is the sigma categorizations from nuclear weapons. Sigma number one is hydrodnamics as in
magneto hydrodnamics which is control of plasma with magnetic fields and then number 11. Sigma 11 is inertial
confinement fusion which is one of the main methods of producing fusion. The NIF is what you know national ignition
foundation. So the problem is this stuff is all tangled together. It's all tangled up together and if it were to
get exposed lots of people have criminal I mean like you said you listed some of some of the crimes that are out there
and we're talking we don't know what happened to those people that could be kidnapping that could be murder that happened to those people on that plane and that's just one example what I would
suggest for for you might want to follow up on is Charles Chase of Lockheed Martin he was the leader of the
revolutionary technologies division of Loheed Martin skunk works he responded to me and he worked with Ben Rich you
know all about Ben Rich that's that was like they were working together on the F-17 17 Nighthawk where they almost
certainly incorporated some of these electrogravidic effects into it. He's the one that convinced the CXOs of Lheed
Martin to work on this compact fusion reactor and it went dark in 2018, but
his resume where he moved on to Unlabs says that that project was successful
and that it's breathing on its own. So, and he he brags about being the one to
convince them to work on that. And if you watch their promotional videos, it talks about unlimited range, no fuel on
board for this fusion reactor and using it as propulsion flying around, which is I think exactly what we're seeing in
those videos. Um, couple last things in the science that I just want to like cuz I By the way, just so people you keep
using the word nuclear, 100% of everyone listening is thinking radioactive material and ionizing radiation. Uh,
just to be clear, that's not what Ashton's talking about. But no, a neutronic. Everyone needs to get that into their lexicon. A neutronic
fusion because I've learned nobody knows what that is either. Nobody knows what that is. Think direct energy conversion. What we
imagine like nuclear energy being. That's what autronic fusion is. Like we're actually turning putting the atoms
together and then we getting out of this pure electricity not turning into heat and then you know boiling some water and
then spinning the turbine. That's why a neutronic is so big. So helium fusion and trial energy I think are the only
two fusion companies currently working on it. both got funded by the DOE. They have Myithil Capital, Peter Teal
connected to them. So, if you want, I'm not, this is not stock advice, I'm just saying take a look at those companies,
but I want to help out with a little bit of the science and physics because I've hear you explain the physics, you know, the concepts of what they have. They
have, you know, we're talking replicators. We're talking uh at least in the future teleportation being
possible. The teleportation is possible because of ER equals EPR which is Einstein Rosen wormhole is equivalent to
Einstein Podski Rosen quantum entanglement. Quantum entanglement is just a tiny version of a wormhole scaled up and we
know quantum entanglement is real. Yeah. One thing people forget if you look I know it's very politically
incorrect to read but if you do read those of you listening um the original
disclosure book and then the book unagnowledged that went with that film in 2017
uh there is a a whistleblower who was in the air force at a base in Canada in
1953 72 years ago where they had an
electronic system that could quote teleport objects, not particles, from
one side of the base to the other. And it's sort of funny because what they were doing back then, everyone smoked
and they were using these big glass ashtrays and it was disappearing and simultaneously reappearing at another,
this is 72 years ago. The other thing I remind people is the week that uh Ben
Rich who had been president of the Lockheed Skunkworks died, my friend uh
uh who who was a aerospace uh gym said,
"Look," he called him up and he he was only a few days to live and and Ben Rich
said, "Look, anything you can imagine that you've seen at Star Trek or something like that, we've already done
at the Lockheed Skunk Works. It's not at Area 51. is out in the desert. Uh I've
been out there. I'm working with people who've been there and in the underground facilities. Uh but what what I think
people need to understand is that he said that 30 years ago in 1995 and the
technology curve just keeps going up, right? So one thing to remember and this is where this is actually very
dangerous. If you have an unchecked powerful entity that has access to that
kind of technology that are not necessarily guided by the best interests
of the world and the people, uh, this is where we could get in a very big problem. Not only with what they are
doing, but with what they are doing against nonhuman civilizations that are
less than amused by this technology curve that's now being deployed against
them. This is what no one's thinking of. So you have to click this up to a higher level of analysis to realize what the
threat matrix is by having a group like this go on unchecked um and having all
access to technologies without any supervision from the people uh the media
the government leaders and what have you know and and this is not to say that the
uh as I receive information if there's anything that is a operating schematic it. I redact it because I know that a
lot of this information technology can't be set loose on the planet because you could have a terrorist in Moadishu
deliver a fierce weapon over Washington DC in two or three seconds uh not
minutes. I mean because if you're dealing so if you're collapsing spaceime that way, this is not something you want
uh out to just every Tom, Dick, and Harry. On the other hand, uh, you know,
there there's a whole constellation of technologies that could come forward
that would be very beneficial to humanity. But I think most importantly, and this is why, you know, I gave up my
medical career to invite whistleblowers to come forward that we keep putting out there to build it up. But I don't have
any of legal authority whatsoever. I mean, I don't I don't run the FBI or DOJ
or White House or Congress, nor do I want to, to be honest with you. uh I've never had an aspiration to be involved
with government whatsoever. I just got pulled into it. But at the same time, we have a responsibility to guide and
advise them. See, this is where an external organization has to provide that perspective and it is being
listened to by senior f folks at the agency and elsewhere. But um what I
would say, you know, this gentleman who went to prison and then changed his name, that information, get the full
information to me. If there are other whistleblowers out there that know of that event where 200 plus souls
vanished, then that is something that needs to be looked at. And if there was a US
corporate or governmental involvement, that needs to be gotten to the bottom of even if some of the reconnaissance and
other ways have to be kept secret, the action itself cannot go unchecked. And
so because if that can happen, then they can do anything to anyone. Yeah. And
and that's what I would say is that I I just want the action to not go unchecked. And I am happy to consult and
advise any government uh officials that want to know my opinion because I agree. I think that we have to be able to admit
what we did. I mean, to that point because that's I think that those families that, you know, they deserve justice. They deserve to know what
happened. But at the same time, we need to protect national security. I'm a I'm a, you know, a red, white, and blueblooded American. I love my country.
I want to be safe. Trump talks about us having these weapons. Nobody understands, right? So, I understand that. But, and this is why
I push people for a neutronic fusion because to me, that's the avenue of getting what we need, which is unlimited
green energy for the world to change everything. and it's still going to be disruptive, but we can avoid giving
people thermonuclear weapons that would blow the whole planet up in an instant, right? We don't want our adversaries to have that. So, last thought on this is
that that people wonder how do you do this? The zero point energy. The zero point energy is a wave. If you squeeze
that wave together, it's going to become amplified like this. And the portion that's above zero is the positive
energy. The portion below zero is the negative energy. The negative energy is what we need for warp drives and wormholes. It's just a conceptual
misunderstanding when it comes to PhD physicists not understanding this idea of negative energy. It's simply a matter
of squeezing your zero point energy waves and causing them to to amplify and then isolating that. And this is what uh
Hal Pudof and Eric Davis say in all their papers. People need to read the Defense Intelligence reference
documents. The 38 papers that Hal Pudof was bragging to Joe Rogan about. Everything is in there, including
there's two ways to manipulate space time. One is you could use these a neutronic fusion bombs which is going to produce this huge amount of energy and
it's going to bend spaceime because of E= MC^² you have this huge amount of mass energy but the other way is super
powerful lasers so atoscond lasers those just won the Nobel Prize in like 2023
the shorter your burst of energy is in time the more condensed it is and then
this is something I haven't said to anybody I was actually kind of uncomfortable about it but there's another way to amplify those lasers
which is using a relativist istic plasma mirror. So the plasma itself can actually act as a mirror so that the
laser beams bounce off inside of it. And if it's vibrating, which vibration is the secret to all of this, then you get
these non-relativistic effects because it's vibrating so fast. This is like the dynamic casmir effect, which takes the
case effect you know about, and all they do is they vibrate the walls. And by vibrating the walls, it can amplify the
effect because of this motion, relative motion, just like with a Doppler effect when you're moving in and out like that. They can do the same thing with plasma
itself and make the plasma perfectly reflective as well. So they really can produce these plasma balls that are
self- sustaining that amplify laser effects and that can then manipulate space time and use it like riding a
wave. Right. Yeah. And so this is where uh you know
stepping up way out there is you know
our planet and our species cannot continue living like we are on the planet. But if we live in the way we are
socially and I would even say to a point spiritually always at each other's throat over every stupid superstitious
thing we can think of or this little piece of land here and there um we can't
go forward either and this is why uh you know it the part the foundational
problem is that we're and we're running out of time is that we're going to have to learn how to live together peacefully
with very advanced techn technologies and not weaponizing everything we get
our hands on. I mean, you know, that is one of the the sort of the original sins
as it were of the primate chimpanzee roots of homo sapiens uh to organize
into war and kill everyone you disagree with or who looks different or sounds different. But that's fine when it's
clubs and even machine guns or maybe even a jet. It ain't fine with this level of technology. uh and so this is
on the horns of the dilemma where on on a very deep level when the final
analysis it's a social spiritual development that has to be concommatant
with the technological what's happened right now is our technology is way ahead
of our social development which is why we're still blowing each other up over
nonsense and superstitions and beliefs and little strips of land here and there that don't amount to anything. Um, but
we but we have technologies that could obliterate the entire planet in the twinkling of an eye. Um, and I think
even worse than that, because we're we're so narcissistic as a species,
we're not alone. And the ones that are out there are been watching this for some time with increasing dismay ever
since we detonated the first atomic bomb. People forget the modern era of quote UFO UAP activity coincided
precisely with the detonation at the Trinity site of the first atomic bomb.
And it's not by an accident. It was absolutely very much related to this.
Um, and it still is because they knew that once a species like ours sets on a
path where we go through that level uh of what happened in the 20th century of
of physics and science and technology into applied physics, but then taking
that and turn it into a fearsson a terrible weapon that could destroy all life on Earth. That's when a giant red
flag comes up over a planet. And boy, do we have a big one flashing red above us.
So, uh, I think that's, you know, you kind of have to put this into terms that
people can understand, but also that members of Congress or White House people can understand because this
science is is unfortunately you one of the funny things I had you you mentioned Tom Bearden. Love Tom Bearden. We're
very good friends. We were very, very close. Oh, yes. Yeah. I wish I could have met him. There's a few engineers. Him and Paul Sizz was
another guy that I saw you interview that I wish I met. Yeah, I know. Yeah. He's a wonderful guy. And one time I took uh uh Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel Barden up to uh some people in the Senate and Science uh uh
committee folks and uh and he we were going to do a briefing and I told him,
"Now before you go, you're going to have to learn to speak speak English, not not
200 deep talk, physics talk." And we went in there, but he couldn't do it. The guy was so brilliant, but it's
like at the end I could tell no one could follow maybe they could follow this and but you
know, but everything he said was like swuahili and so I had to do a translation for them. But one thing I I
remind people when you're talking to folks uh whether it's media, the general
public, uh Senate, you know, people, presidents, none of them understand
science. Um and they're most of their science adviserss, that's who we were addressing, don't understand this level
of science because you're not learning that at MIT and Harvard, you know, you're going to learn that in the skunk
works. Uh so or someplace. So, we have to learn to discuss it in a way that
brings it to earth um and define our terms. But I also think that you what
you're doing is important. I would say we need to put out a call and I'm doing that right now to people who are
knowledgeable of what really happened. There are people who know and I do think
that this uh gentleman who went to prison, I don't care what his current or former name was, uh absolutely could be
uh interrogated and and and he he would not be able to to not answer the
questions on something that's a mass murder criminal case that did involve
either US technology companies or US uh military or intelligence personnel.
I mean that that you know that uh the prerogative for the the rule of law
would trump uh whatever secrets he's been told to hide. Um yeah so
I think he needs a pardon though honestly. I mean the only way I could see him talk because his plea deal would have something in there that says that he's
that can be done. This is called a letter of nonprosecution. you can get immunity. And this is the other thing, people
listening, the folks I'm talking with are in a position to be able to put that in place
because when the day is done, we have a whole bunch of high value people in
corporate and and government workplaces that need exactly that and and that's
what needs to happen. Uh and this is going this has been discussed. You've seen some of the draft legislation in
Congress, but in reality, this can be done through the Department of Justice and also the executive branch to anyone
who has information of great significance. They can receive uh a letter of nonprosecution and immunity
for everything they've done and have been involved with. But the quidd proquo on that is they have to disclose
everything. They can't disclose this and hold back that. It has to be the full
disclosure. But that is what we are have uh folks who who want to move in that
direction. And I would say people connected to this case uh and other UAP related cases should contact us. Um you
contact you know Mr. Forbes you can contact us uh and and we'll collaborate on getting this to the right people who
want to see the truth come out and have it come out correctly. And by the way everyone I'm working with in the
government end of this who are the white hats who want this. understand the sensitivity of the technology release
that it isn't everything. I'm, you know, we're not wildeyed UFO people who go, "Oh, everything should come out and
we're floating in UFOs going from Paris to New York in two two minutes
tomorrow." I mean, there's a there there's a technology curve that has to
get adapted to society's conditions and the state of the world. And the state of
the world right now, it ain't peaceful, you know. So, And so, you know, in a dangerous world,
we have to figure out how to benefit and and advance human civilization without
destroying it, right? So, uh that's threading that needle. It takes some
wisdom and and there are people who I'm working with who I would say everyone I'm working with understand this issue.
Yeah. I have some final thoughts. One is just that I think somebody wants this to come out. That's the reason why I've
been not been told to stop or what have you. I don't know what the factions are. I would love to know what they are. But if Edward Lynn's out there, uh, you
know, you just heard it right here. He's got the resources if you want to get, you know, legally covered before you can talk about because that's what it would
take, I think, for the public to understand. I've spoken, I haven't mentioned this name, but I've been I've spoken to like bu, you know, uh,
businessmen that are extremely successful, wealthy. I'm not going to name names, but just like you said, they don't understand the science, just like
the politicians don't necessarily understand it. That's why my action, my personal action has been to teach people
the science to and explain it in a way that they normally not a way that the physicists talk about it where they're
always name dropping things you can't follow what they're saying but in a way that normal people can get it. And the last thought is
what I've learned from this technology related to your um you know search for extraterrestrial life wherever that may
be. Uh they definitely know. I mean we're talking with the laser capability they can get below the defraction limit. So
they can have telescopes that are just beyond people's wildest imaginations. If there's something out there, they know
about it. My personal belief is that the moment we change LIGO to start looking for artificial gravitational waves
instead of just natural ones where neutron stars are colliding, I think the whole universe is going to light up because aliens are flying around.
They're not flying around on rocks like three, atlas, whatever. They're flying around warp drives and wormholes. They
don't need to fly on a space rock, slow space rock that's moving like 0% of the
speed of light or whatever. It's like, come on. Oh, it's ludicrous. Yeah. I mean, so many of these things, you know, you know
that that's somebody with academic credentials gaslighting uh gullible
people in the Congress and the public. We won't name names, but yeah. Yeah. Oh, I will. Abby Lo, I know exactly.
Lo, he wants 100 million for his Galileo project. I get it. I understand.
No, now he's asking for a bill. Now he's asking for a billion. You know, the big the rat pack with Bigalow Aerospace got
maybe I don't know 100 billion, a million, I don't know. But now they want a billion to to keep the whole charade
going, right? Let's put a billion into a neutronic fusion research and then we can all have infinite energy forever. Then we won't
have to worry about any of this stuff. Exactly. Exactly. Well, good. It was a pleasure finally meeting you. At least
virtually. I hope I'm telling you. Where do you live, by the way? Uh I live in Minnesota. So yeah, I'm good. All right. Well, I'm I'm I'm have
a place in DC and a place out here in the Blue Ridge Mountains near Thomas Jefferson's house. So, if you ever get
out back east, we should meet up sometime. I'll uh I'll follow along and and and start to meet up and uh yeah, and if you can spread
the word and try to get awareness in in Congress or in in government in general, either about the MH370 case, which I
think the thread will unravel everything, or just in general about really the capabilities of thermonuclear
weapons and their connection to UFOs, I think is is vital. I mean, you you laid it out earlier. So, thank you very much, Dr. Greer. Thank you, Raven, for guys
having us. Thank you. Yeah. Have a have a good afternoon. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.